Rote Law, conformity to lists…

October 28, 2009

As I was driving the very snowy streets of town today I pondered something that I wanted to say a quick word on here.  Just a rant if you will indulge me:

Passing a questionnaire, a list of worthiness obligations, is incredibly similar the Pharisaic law of rote obedience based on certain laws that must be kept.  It’s odd to me that we would feel compelled to adopt such a list in order to gauge temple worthiness.  Revelation seems like a better alternative?  I think that’s a better alternative for Priesthood advancement too.  In the scriptures if men can’t be found who have received these priesthoods than allowances are made and an order is established as to who will lead.  It doesn’t instruct us to promote people to callings based on need.  The administration of priesthood today though is a bit different than in Josephs day.

Isn’t using a list of questions and answers an odd way to establish worthiness?  I wonder if this has a type elsewhere…

Especially the Temple recommend questions (I do hold a recommend).  Here’s why i ask, I’ll point out a few inconsistencies that I have with the questions.  When I have asked these to people, and have been asked them myself, they 9the questions) seem to really shoot past the mark.  An agenda might easily be seen:
hypothetically;

My worthiness to enter the temple is based on whether or I not I can sustain other men in their callings.  Its based on whether or not I think they are exercising keys.  Its based on their seership (greatest gift), Prophecy and revelation, none of which I have evidence of in my hand.  Its based on their worthiness than, to do those things.  If they are not acting well within the calling, can I say I sustain them in their actions?  If not, than should that keep me out of the temple, even If I am striving personally to do so?  this particular question is the lengthiest, containing 3 small questions in it.   with all the quorums of seventy, etc… one must paint a really broad stroke in order to make sure that we can sustain all of them.  History has shown that many of them have been ex’d…  and the things not being punished are more sinister.

One of the questions is whether or not we keep our temple covenants.   Who here can raise their hand and say they are keeping the law of consecration, the law of sacrifice, the law of the gospel and are giving all their time talents and energy to the building of the kingdom of god and the establishment of Zion? Do we even know what that means (rhetorically as a people)?  If you are tell me where, so i can come and join you.
It is also inferred that we have covenanted to go to all our meetings.  Not sure when I did that or why that is a perogative to enter the house of the Lord.  Jesus skipped a ton of meetings, in fact he was kicked out of them when he went.  He went on extended forays into the wilderness, including on the sabbath no less.

One of the questions is whether we keep the WoW…Though the definition used for the sake of measurement is not inline with what the WoW in the scripture states, and it was given not by way of commandment.  A few things have been added to that definition too that are not in scripture.  Which WoW are we keeping?  the modern one or the scriptural one?

question 7 on whether or not we support or agree with anything contrary to the churches official standing is punishing based on belief.  Again, Joseph told us Mormonism does not do that.  Its oppression.

One of the questions refers to child or spousal support, decided by the state.  We must conform to the Gov’ts edict to enter the temple.  In fact, i know a guy, whom I helped to teach, who was denied being baptized because he was on probation.  He was on probation until he paid a HUGE debt ($50,000) that his exgirlfriend had racked up on his credit card to get even with him.  He never did anything wrong that he would have to repent of, but because the state put him on probation until that monetary debt was paid, the mission president decided he could not get baptized.  And this was one of the rare time when conversion was real.  Ye scribes and pharisees…

Questions 1-3 and 15 should be sufficient, no?

1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord’s house and participate in temple ordinances?

than base the decisions on the spirit of your answer.

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  1. Steve GrahamOctober 29, 2009 @ 10:09 am

    Chris Hansen over on the Mormon-Fundamentalism Yahoo group uses this on his posts:

    “Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be asked out of their Church. I want the liberty of thinking and believing as I please. It feels so good not to be trammelled.” – Joseph Smith

    I love this quote, although I must say it raises questions. I decided not too long ago that I would be the one who decided what I believed, not someone else, not even a prophet or apostle. However, I do remember reading and teaching the following:

    Ephesians 4:
    11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
    12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
    13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
    14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

    I understand this to say that one of the functions of the Church is to help us have true doctrine, not doctrine which is promoted by those who do not have our best interests at heart. So, are apostles and prophets supposed to decide doctrine? If so, how does that co-exist with Joseph’s statement? And what about when one group of apostles and prophets change doctrine 180 degrees from what an earlier set proclaimed without any new scripture for justification?

    BTW, I really enjoy your blog.

    Thanks, Steve

  2. Steve GrahamOctober 29, 2009 @ 10:17 am

    Perhaps I should have first responded to your post.

    It seems that we get rote, when the Spirit leaves. Witness the Pharisees who loved the law, just not the spirit of it. I wonder if it would be optimal to simply have a priesthood leader with discernment tell us if we are worthy or not to enter the temple.

    In particular I wonder about “Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?”. Tell me one organization today that does not conflict with the Gospel in some way. And I participate in any number of Mormon-oriented Yahoo groups. Must I stop such because they allow on those who are Fundamentalists or against the Church? Even if I’ve learned more about the Gospel from them than almost any member of the Church I’ve ever known?

    I guess I agree with you.

    Steve

  3. Steve, thanks for your thoughts.

    Yes Presidents and Apostles decide doctrine. For the church.

    Its our duty to be prophets and know the doctrine of God by revelation.

  4. Great post! I have been thinking of the same things recently due my own personal situation. Why can’t we see what we have become?



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